Casket photo sparks Air Force investigation, outrage

[kdfwr911]

Air Force commanders are investigating the origins of a photo of airmen posing around an open casket with another airman inside pretending to be dead.

In the photo, which has elicited disbelief and outrage from military commanders, military wives and widows, and others, 15 airmen are seen kneeling or standing around a metallic casket, similar to those used to carry war dead home. In the open casket is another airman, looking lifeless, with what appears to be a noose around his neck and chains across his body.

“Da Dumpt, Da Dumpt … Sucks 2 Be U” is scribbled at the bottom of the photo, which apparently was taken in August but didn’t come to light publicly until it was emailed to Air Force Times on Monday.

On Tuesday, Air Force Times published an article on the photo and the controversy it is generating.

The airmen in the photo are apparently from the 345th Training Squadron in Fort Lee, Va., military officials said Wednesday. Their unit is a detachment from a command at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas.

Air Force Times said an investigation was launched after it forwarded the photo to Air Education and Training Command, the overall training command for the Air Force, for comment. Lackland is one of the bases assigned to the command.

David E. Smith, spokesman for the training command, told Air Force Times that the commander of the 37th Training Group at Lackland, Col. Gregory Reese, was “obviously displeased.”

Smith told msnbc.com on Wednesday: “I don’t know whether any rules have been violated. What I do know is the photo apparently was taken in August, and the folks involved in it are under investigation by an Air Force officer.” He said he expects the investigation to be completed “in a week or two.”

Gerry Proctor, public affairs officer for 37th Training Wing, said he couldn’t speculate on what potential violations might be unearthed.

“I can only tell you the wing commander was disappointed to see something like that because it does not meet our values or ethos. That’s why he determined to immediately launch an investigation,” Proctor told msnbc.com.

He said one officer from Lackland has been assigned to the investigation.

Smith said it’s unclear what the intent of the photo was. “I don’t know what kind of message they’re trying to convey, but we were saddened to see that display,” he said.

Air Force Times noted the photo surfaced one month after the public disclosure that the Air Force’s Port Mortuary at Dover Air Force Base, Del., had lost and mishandled the remains of hundreds of fallen troops. Dover is the first stop on American soil for troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. An investigation found "gross mismanagement" at the mortuary, and the Air Force later acknowledged it had dumped cremated partial remains of at least 274 troops into a Virginia dump.

Air Force Secretary Michael Donley, in a statement Tuesday night to Air Force Times, expressed concern that the photo might cause more turmoil for families of fallen troops.

"Such behavior is not consistent with our core values, and it is not representative of the Airmen I know. It saddens me that this may cause additional grief to the families of our fallen warriors,” he said, according to Air Force Times.

At least one soldier with the 82nd Airborne Division found the casket photo offensive.

“I cannot help but picture the faces of my dead [soldiers] that we drug out of burning vehicles, dug out from collapsed buildings,” Staff Sgt. Elias Bonilla wrote in an email to Air Force Times.

The photo also drew outrage from several Air Force Times readers. One, who identified himself as Mike Hayes, an Air Force police officer, wrote: “All these NCOs and Airman should be prosecuted and dismissed from the military. This is disgraceful and disrespectful to all the men."

"HOW DARE YOU!" commented another reader, Deedy Salie, who said she was a military widow. "My husband came home in one of those boxes, not on his own two feet like these disgraceful people will.. You not only offend my husband SFC David J. Salie, but his children, his wife, his family..........Hell, the entire nation. SHAME ON YOU."

See the photo at; http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/ ... on-outrage

[kdfwr911]

I'll probably take a beating for this comment, but I honestly don't know what the fuss is all about. I think maybe it's the media trying to make a big flap out of something that should probably be viewed a little more from the perspective of those involved in taking the picture. I really don't believe they intended any disrespect to anyone and were probably not intending for the picture to be plastered all over the internet by the news media in their over zealousness to make a big story. For the press I think it's a pile on mentality. The USAF took a major hit in the last week when it was discovered they had disrespectfully disposed of creamated pieces of human remains in a landfill. So now anything they can dig up to sling more mud on the AF is fair game....even if it really don't amount to that much. The freaking press really chaps my a$$ sometimes with the biased reporting of some punk a$$ reporter trying to make a name and reputation for themselves at someone elses expense.

[E_]

I'd like to hear more from those in the photo on their meaning of the photo.

[katie]

I'll probably take a beating for this comment, but I honestly don't know what the fuss is all about. I think maybe it's the media trying to make a big flap out of something that should probably be viewed a little more from the perspective of those involved in taking the picture. I really don't believe they intended any disrespect to anyone and were probably not intending for the picture to be plastered all over the internet by the news media in their over zealousness to make a big story. For the press I think it's a pile on mentality. The USAF took a major hit in the last week when it was discovered they had disrespectfully disposed of creamated pieces of human remains in a landfill. So now anything they can dig up to sling more mud on the AF is fair game....even if it really don't amount to that much. The freaking press really chaps my a$$ sometimes with the biased reporting of some punk a$$ reporter trying to make a name and reputation for themselves at someone elses expense.

I'm kinda sittin on your side of the fence with this one kdfwr911. I don't think it was in the best of taste or interest for them to take a pic that could get out but I am betting it was probably taken around the time that Osama Bin Laden was taken down. I cannot imagine some of the things these soldiers go through and try to find anything to make life a little less "grim" if you will. Heck, we had a TV personality that was always in a casket for his show. Not the same, I know but I don't think they meant any disrespect to their brothers and sisters in arms.

[re3too]

I also think we have to remember that many of these soldiers are very young. They have endured situations that we can only imagine. Not making excuses or saying what they did was correct but the maturity factor may be in play here. Plus, look at all the stuff we joke about that is not always in good taste. These young people have been raised in an age where "comedy" is not always in the best of taste. JMHO.

Now let's get back to the normally scheduled bashing and jump 911 for his bone-headed comments!