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Newt Gingrich Statement on the Proposed "Cordoba House" Mosque at Ground Zero
July 21, 2010
There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.
The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site - where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don't understand that "Cordoba House" is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain - the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world's third-largest mosque complex.

Today, some of the Mosque's backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith cooperation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.
Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca.

And they lecture us about tolerance.
If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign.
We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million megamosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating surprise attack in American history.
Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources.
America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.

No mosque.
No self deception.
No surrender.
The time to take a stand is now - at this site on this issue:
http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/newt-gi ... round-zero

Well, personally I think you shouldn't be postin' this kinda chit on a lake forum! Somebody might take offense! Oh wait! We seem to be able to handle this kinda chit wifout gettin' the undies in a wad! Whatever was I thinkin'?

re3too wrote:Well, personally I think you shouldn't be postin' this kinda chit on a lake forum! Somebody might take offense! Oh wait! We seem to be able to handle this kinda chit wifout gettin' the undies in a wad! Whatever was I thinkin'?

You play nice or I will use my authorities to edit/delete/ban you

Be my guest!

re3too wrote:Be my guest!

You're one of the best ones on this board. Well........behind me.

re3too wrote:Well, personally I think you shouldn't be postin' this kinda chit on a lake forum! Somebody might take offense! Oh wait! We seem to be able to handle this kinda chit wifout gettin' the undies in a wad! Whatever was I thinkin'?

I'll second what Firescape said over there.

re3too wrote:Be my guest!

This thread is now under review

No you did not!!!!!!

Could not help myself.

Classic!

Ya'll need to thank Jefferina and me! If he hadn't posted, I wouldn't have responded and ya'll wouldn't have had so much fun this PM! See how it's done, "Guests"?

Oh, and slower....don't you EVER put me behind you unless you wanna be...oh, never mind!

E_HILLMAN wrote:

re3too wrote:Be my guest!

This thread is now under review

You go S.............. uh, I mean E.

Obama backs controversial New York mosque project
Aug 14, 01:13 PM EDT


By Ross Colvin and Jeff Mason



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Friday backed construction of a proposed mosque and Muslim cultural center near the site of the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York -- a project opposed by conservatives and many New Yorkers.



"As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said to applause at an event attended by diplomats from Islamic countries and members of the U.S. Muslim community.



"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said, weighing in for the first time in a national debate that has grown increasingly heated in recent weeks.



Earlier this month a New York city agency cleared the way for construction of the community center, which will include a prayer room, two blocks from the site of the September 11 attacks, popularly known as "Ground Zero."



"This is America and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable," said Obama, who has made improving ties between the United States and the Muslim world a cornerstone of his foreign policy.



Obama was speaking during an Iftar dinner he hosted at the White House. Iftar is the evening meal when Muslims break their daily fast during the holy month of Ramadan.



About 2,750 people were killed in the September 11 attacks, when al Qaeda hijackers crashed two passenger planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center. The attacks deeply traumatized Americans and sparked the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan and the Bush administration's "war on terror."



Many families of those killed in the attacks have mounted an emotional campaign to block the community center, calling it provocative and a betrayal of the memory of the victims.



Conservative politicians such as former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich, a Republican former Speaker of the House of Representatives, also have called for the project to be scrapped.



Mark Williams, a spokesman for the conservative Tea Party political movement, said the center would be used for "terrorists to worship their monkey god."



OBAMA WEIGHS IN



In his remarks on Friday, Obama preached the need for religious tolerance and noted that the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution had established the freedom of religion, "and that right has been upheld ever since."



The president also stressed that al Qaeda was not synonymous with Islam.



"Al Qaeda's cause is not Islam -- it is a gross distortion of Islam," he said. "These are not religious leaders -- these are terrorists who murder innocent men, women and children."



New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has firmly supported the community center project as have many religious organizations in the city. However, 53 percent of New Yorkers oppose it, according to a Marist Poll this week.



The Cordoba House community center is the brainchild of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who told Reuters in an interview last month that he had modeled it on the Young Men's Christian Association.



Now simply called the Y, YMCA facilities across the United States offer exercise classes, education and community activities.



The city agency's August 3 ruling is expected to clear the way for construction of Cordoba House, which will include a 500-seat auditorium, art exhibition spaces and a swimming pool as part of a 13-story complex.



Since coming into office, Obama, a Democrat, has worked to reach out to Muslims, many of whom felt targeted by the "war on terror" and by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.



In a speech in Cairo in June 2009, Obama called for a "new beginning" in ties between the United States and Muslims, saying extremists had exploited tensions between Muslims and the West and that Islam was not part of the problem.



(Writing by Jeff Mason and Ross Colvin, additional reporting by Emma Ashburn, editing by Bill Trott)

Yeah, then the a-hole played politics in a later news statement and he that did not mean he thought it was nor was not a good idea. If that is not out of the side of the mouth what is.

re3too wrote:Well, personally I think you shouldn't be postin' this kinda chit on a lake forum! Somebody might take offense! Oh wait! We seem to be able to handle this kinda chit wifout gettin' the undies in a wad! Whatever was I thinkin'?

Hehehe, the forum for ( Freedom of expression ) The Forum for People that can ( Think For Themselves )

E_HILLMAN wrote:Yeah, then the a-hole played politics in a later news statement and he that did not mean he thought it was nor was not a good idea. If that is not out of the side of the mouth what is.

Liberals ! I did NOT Say what I really was thinking

Well the way I see it is that there are a few that are behind the scenes making a stink about how this could never have happened when C-line was around. I post my views here and those who don't like it don't have to read it. But I can say this, if you don't stay aware of what is going on in our government, you will soon find out when you can't afford to put gas in your boat. But I guess you can always talk about " back in the day" when we had big raft ups, and we all met and had a brew. Those who hide behind old rules will be the first to say, "d@mn I wish I had known". Anyway, I am glad that we have freedom of speech here! This crap of worrying about who we offend and who we don't is a bunch of crap. When you have 3800 members, you will never make all happy. But you can get a very good education if you want to discuss and listen to worldly news. I have said it before and I will say it again. There is a huge country around us, and as far as I can see there is no government laws being made by the lawmakers while floating on LC.

we need to limit this site to 6 Posting per per week ! Per Poster

how are you working ? and posting at the same time ?

You are Just a Bunch of lazy Jerk Off's RE3 too also


Now if You are NOT talking about Boating on lake Cumberland ? Then You and the other 23 are certainly ON Review and will BE Banned !!!


On and On the LITTLE Man would Talk !!! Hehehe Of course when confronted personally, face to face Well Now CLine made me do that ???? Barf barf

What is it you are trying to say?

_____ wrote:

re3too wrote:Well, personally I think you shouldn't be postin' this kinda chit on a lake forum! Somebody might take offense! Oh wait! We seem to be able to handle this kinda chit wifout gettin' the undies in a wad! Whatever was I thinkin'?

I'll second what Firescape said over there.

There is an old saying, " If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen".