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So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:06 pm
by Nebrios
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:57 am
by JLA
Excellent ONE SIDED video. While every line of work has its "bad apples' you have managed to show the cream of the crop of corruption. What is missing from most of those videos is the actual conversations between law enforcement and all these poor people. I'm sure they were all completely responsive to everything asked of them by the police, and none of them had any reason to even be questioned by the police. What an outrage!!
Give me a break. Perhaps before we condemn all law enforcement, we should walk a mile in their shoes, or at least ride along for a shift or two. Yes, some are on a power trip, but over all, 99% of the cops on the beat are doing their jobs without incident. Think about how many times across the nation someone has an encounter with law enforcement and there isn't video of the incident, because there is nothing to see. The video (corruption) represents such a small percentage that it is statistically insignificant. But good videos don't sell papers (does anyone read papers anymore?) or boost ratings.
Most of my friends are in law enforcement and I have done ride-a-longs, enrolled in a citizens police academy, and have trained as the "bad guy" with several departments and the local S.W.A.T. team. I was the "shooter" in a school, a "drunk driver" with a gun in my lap during a traffic stop, and held hostages in a workplace environment, to name a few of the scenes we did. Even with all this involvement, I don't claim to have any idea what it is like to be a law enforcement officer. Every moment of contact with the public could turn deadly in a second. When a threat is identified, that/those officer(s) have to do everything in their power to control and eliminate that threat. The days of respect for authority are gone, and most of the bad guys are better armed than the cops.
People like to take videos like this and belittle the police, and yet when the $hit hits the fan who do you call? That's right the POLICE.
Thank You to all law enforcement for all you do.
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:18 am
by Nebrios
Bad apples....yes...and since we dont know what was said or done to get cuffed, that makes it ok to use excessive force while cuffed....give me a break. Uh yea...ive participated in some of the things you have to....oh and I also have buddies that are those guys too...oh the stories they tell of how slick they are of the things they do. thing is these arent the cream of the crop..
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:15 am
by DMS
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:02 pm
by Nebrios
And you had to go and throw the cream of the top good apple in and mess up my mojo....
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:19 pm
by E_
Yin and yang
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:29 pm
by Nebrios
E_ wrote:Yin and yang
That was a foreign term...couldn't ya come up with an American one....
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:07 am
by JLA
Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:48 pm
by E_
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/co ... 28011.html
Cop handcuffs on-duty firefighter for not moving truck
Incident occurred while firefighters were treating crash victims
Good thing it was caught on camera, or it would be tough to believe: A California Highway Patrol officer put an on-duty Chula Vista firefighter in handcuffs for refusing to move his truck while tending to victims of a car crash.
As he was being handcuffed on the side of the 805 Freeway near Orange County, the firefighter, 12-year veteran Jacob Gregoire, told reporters who had gathered, "I just want to let you all know he’s arresting me."
Later, according to CBS News 8, Gregoire told the arresting officer, whose name has not been released, "It’s unbelievable you guys have to treat us like this. We are trying to help you guys."
The officer replied, "We asked you to clear the road, you said ‘No.’ You are being arrested for not moving."
Gregoire was reportedly detained in the back of a highway patrol car for several minutes before being released. He was not charged.
Chula Vista Fire Chief Dave Hanneman told CBS, "To detain one of our firefighters in the middle of an incident is ridiculous."
In a statement, Hanneman praised the firefighters for doing what they were trained to do — protecting the scene of an accident with their trucks.
Hanneman told the San Diego Union-Tribune, "The CHP is going to investigate. I think a lot of this had to do with communication."
The Union-Tribune reports the car accident resulted in two injuries. One person was hospitalized.
The two sides have since made peace. In a joint statement, representatives from the police and fire departments announced this was an "isolated incident and not representative of the manner in which our agencies normally work together toward our common goal," CBS Los Angeles reported.
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:51 pm
by re3too
I have never understood the ego trip mentality that can exist between groups.
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:24 pm
by Nebrios
I dont think its an ego thing. Its the current orwellian police state we are in..and its only gonna get worse.
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:30 am
by JLA
Police & Fire are always going to be at odds in small cities and towns. They are, after all, competing for the same small available budget dollars. Each department is going to continue to need equipment and personnel. I have seen this happen at several cities that I have dealt with.
With that said, this was a complete joke and that cop should be disciplined.
Re: So much for protect and serve....
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:30 pm
by Soak-up-the-Sun
I personally have never met a "bad cop". Only a few loud or rude ones. Then again, never been in the position of nor the environment requiring urgent police action. The loud or rude ones were handling very drunk people in public. Glad they were there or I would have had to deal with them or step over them on Beale or Bourbon, or wherever the alcohol flowed too freely, lol-- it's all about the environment you find yourself in. Either you become less effected and immune to the emotional aspects of people being arrested, or you come across SOOOO many thugs and criminals as a police officer that you recognize where the trouble is and laws broken....I'll bet that many cops have arrested the same persons over and over that they know if they have warrants as soon as they spot them.