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HOME SALES TAX
Not sure if this has been posted already, but worth posting again.
When did your home become part of your health care? After 2012! Your vote counts big time in 2012, make sure you and all your friends and family clean the white house. It is critical.
HOME SALES TAX
I thought you might find this interesting, -- maybe even SICKENING! The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, -- before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012? Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill, -- and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn't come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is ‘change you can believe in’? Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax. If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important? Oh, you weren't aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren't alone! There are more than a few members of Congress that weren't aware of it either. You can check this out for yourself at:
http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamac ... taxes-home
When did your home become part of your health care? After 2012! Your vote counts big time in 2012, make sure you and all your friends and family clean the white house. It is critical.
HOME SALES TAX
I thought you might find this interesting, -- maybe even SICKENING! The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, -- before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012? Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill, -- and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn't come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is ‘change you can believe in’? Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax. If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important? Oh, you weren't aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren't alone! There are more than a few members of Congress that weren't aware of it either. You can check this out for yourself at:
http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamac ... taxes-home
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You know, I heard something about this but did not hear that it had been passed in the health care bill!!! What a crooked-a$$ trick to pull off!!
I am gonna need a new d@mn neck from shakin my head so much at the current "staff"....
You know, it is just as bad for all of the younger ones who are losing their homes because they lost their jobs, etc. Just another punch in the gut, period.
The longer he is in there, the more he acts like he is a KING, not just the president.
I am gonna need a new d@mn neck from shakin my head so much at the current "staff"....
You know, it is just as bad for all of the younger ones who are losing their homes because they lost their jobs, etc. Just another punch in the gut, period.
The longer he is in there, the more he acts like he is a KING, not just the president.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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FYI. There is a bunch of crap in there that has nothing to do with health care. You can thank Pelosi, Reed and Obama for it. It is another way to screw us out of our money. They are all crooked bastards!
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Snopes anyone?
No, not a sales tax, and never going to apply to 99.9% of us.
I notice your completely bogus cut and paste never mentions it doesn't even kick in till you get over the capital gains thresholds on property sales, and only applies to high income individuals.
No, not a sales tax, and never going to apply to 99.9% of us.
I notice your completely bogus cut and paste never mentions it doesn't even kick in till you get over the capital gains thresholds on property sales, and only applies to high income individuals.
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Which is more credible Snopes or GOP.gov? Both seem to have their alliances.
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E_HILLMAN wrote:Which is more credible Snopes or GOP.gov? Both seem to have their alliances.
Notice GOP.gov does not dispute the facts presented by snopes, they just choose to not mention details. This is a tax on the capital gains of property sales for high income earners.
If you earn over $250K a year, and are selling a property that you are making a $500K PROFIT on, this applies to you. Us ordinary average folks don't have to worry about this.
The GOP site linked above doesn't mention that, and sure as heck doesn't include the bogus numbers listed in the email designed to get all the obama haters riled up.
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By NOT mentioning it they hurting their credibility then. Geez why can't people just tell it like it is.
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E_HILLMAN wrote:By NOT mentioning it they hurting their credibility then. Geez why can't people just tell it like it is.
It's the same game both ways. Both sides try to make it sound like you will get the benefits of their plan, and someone else will pay for it, but in reality, your are most likely getting screwed either way. I make too much money to get the gov't handouts to the poor the dems are always pushing for, and don't make enough to be worried about the taxes on the rich the gop seem to think are the problem.
Both say someone else will be paying for it, but in reality, no matter which side gets their way, I'll be paying more.
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Yep, I just don't like the way the GOP site presented it. It leads people astray and finally people will figure this out and sway the other way which I feel is worse. If they would just focus on what really matters they would do well..
...no wait NEITHER side gives a F about any of us.
...no wait NEITHER side gives a F about any of us.
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Lost me on this one! I thought a buyer paid sales tax!!!!!! Not a seller.
I have taken the road least traveled................and now I am freakin LOST !
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E_HILLMAN wrote:Yep, I just don't like the way the GOP site presented it. It leads people astray and finally people will figure this out and sway the other way which I feel is worse. If they would just focus on what really matters they would do well..
...no wait NEITHER side gives a F about any of us.
I wouldn't put the blame on the GOP too much for this one. Sure, the web site that is linked is theirs, but I bet the email that is presenting these "facts" was just some $h1t stirrer that wanted to try to piss some people off. Remember all the supposedly NRA backed emails like this when Obama was being elected? They drew over the top conclusions from Obama quotes taken out of context from things he said 20 years ago. After talking to a few gun dealers, I'm fairly certain they were responsible for the ads as it quadrupled their business that year. Yet here we are four years later, and Obama hasn't even mentioned a single thing about guns.....
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on that I figure all along he was waiting on a second term. Just like his comment to Russia.
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Yup, it's an e-mail I received...
The Full Article Here: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5=
> 9E0Q920091015 U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and s=
> aid it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as lon=
> g as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nati=
> on a veto.
> The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Departmen=
> t, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administrati=
> on, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls w=
> ere better.
> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms =
> in the United States . The Obama administration intends to
> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through=
> the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can=
> use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Co=
> ngress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US c=
> itizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. T=
> hese are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such a=
> s the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloom=
> berg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and co=
> nfiscation of all firearms.
> The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun co=
> ntrol that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizen=
> s even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and=
> tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United=
> States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, =
> his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to internation=
> al treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling t=
> he truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control deb=
> ates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and fin=
> d that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and amm=
> unition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another m=
> orning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer=
> of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning
> and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deli=
> ver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction=
> center or face imprisonment.
> This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care w=
> ill be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means nece=
> ssary, so will gun control.
> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direct=
> ion in which our country is headed.
> We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
The Full Article Here: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE5=
> 9E0Q920091015 U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and s=
> aid it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as lon=
> g as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nati=
> on a veto.
> The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Departmen=
> t, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administrati=
> on, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls w=
> ere better.
> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms =
> in the United States . The Obama administration intends to
> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through=
> the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can=
> use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Co=
> ngress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US c=
> itizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. T=
> hese are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such a=
> s the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloom=
> berg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and co=
> nfiscation of all firearms.
> The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun co=
> ntrol that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizen=
> s even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and=
> tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United=
> States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, =
> his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to internation=
> al treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling t=
> he truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control deb=
> ates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and fin=
> d that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and amm=
> unition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another m=
> orning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer=
> of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning
> and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deli=
> ver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction=
> center or face imprisonment.
> This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care w=
> ill be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means nece=
> ssary, so will gun control.
> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direct=
> ion in which our country is headed.
> We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
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Which is why it's actually more critical to get ALL of Congress out, Senate and House both!!
It's not just the White House as I don't understand how most people think. If you can't see Congress is the bigger problem, all I can ask is to please open your eyes. These complete crooked &*cks in the House and Senate are whats ruining this country.
Disclaimer: Didn't vote for current WH dude, won't vote for either MR or BO in 2012.
It's not just the White House as I don't understand how most people think. If you can't see Congress is the bigger problem, all I can ask is to please open your eyes. These complete crooked &*cks in the House and Senate are whats ruining this country.
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Yep, they all need to go. But in line behind them are more just like them. A average guy that would care for the country does not have a clean enough closet or a crew to wipe up the dirt for him to be able to run.
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djcardinal wrote:
Disclaimer: Didn't vote for current WH dude, won't vote for either MR or BO in 2012.
Well, I'm going to vote against the one I definitely don't want in there!
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Nervous Wreck wrote:djcardinal wrote:
Disclaimer: Didn't vote for current WH dude, won't vote for either MR or BO in 2012.
Well, I'm going to vote against the one I definitely don't want in there!
I just can't bring myself to vote for someone just because they are the lesser of two evils. Some times you have to dig deep down on the list of candidates to find one you can support. I know that most consider it wasting your vote, but I think so long as the two parties know they will never have to face a serious challenge from a third party due to most people voting for the lesser of the two evils they present, there will never be a change in the way things are going.
Of course, that means I have never voted for the winner yet......
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I admit I voted for Gatewood for KY Gov and I guess wasted my vote but there was not really a lesser of the other two evils. I think the Presidential election there is a lesser and I need my vote to count.
PS, Imaposer you need an avatar!
PS, Imaposer you need an avatar!
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Guess ya gave him the "Dog in the Headlights" one! Kinda how ya feel when ya go to vote! Sheesh!E_HILLMAN wrote:
PS, Imaposer you need an avatar!
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I have also voted for Gatewood. If you live in KY, no worries about how we will vote in the presidential race. Romney is a lock. I will also continue to vote against McConnell as long as he runs. Don't like how Chandler has performed either.E_HILLMAN wrote:I admit I voted for Gatewood for KY Gov and I guess wasted my vote but there was not really a lesser of the other two evils. I think the Presidential election there is a lesser and I need my vote to count.
PS, Imaposer you need an avatar!
I have taken the road least traveled................and now I am freakin LOST !
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E_HILLMAN wrote: PS, Imaposer you need an avatar!
Didn't ever realize I had never loaded mine up.
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I have only once, Slick Willy in 1996. I can't bring myself to vote for the current crook in office, and I would NEVER vote for someone so tied to a Religion either. SO I guess it will be a wasted vote, I'll likely write in Bill Clinton again.imaposer wrote:Nervous Wreck wrote:djcardinal wrote:
Disclaimer: Didn't vote for current WH dude, won't vote for either MR or BO in 2012.
Well, I'm going to vote against the one I definitely don't want in there!
I just can't bring myself to vote for someone just because they are the lesser of two evils. Some times you have to dig deep down on the list of candidates to find one you can support. I know that most consider it wasting your vote, but I think so long as the two parties know they will never have to face a serious challenge from a third party due to most people voting for the lesser of the two evils they present, there will never be a change in the way things are going.
Of course, that means I have never voted for the winner yet......
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The only thing I had 'against' Clinton was,
he should have just fessed up and said, "I'm a normal man and just got caught".
he should have just fessed up and said, "I'm a normal man and just got caught".