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OBAMA'S THREE WEEK REPORT CARD

It is hard to imagine that one man could do so much in so little time, but here goes . . .are ya ready for this? It's only been three weeks:

1) Admits to having family members who are muslim, something he avoided like the plague during the election. Gee, wonder why?

2) Ordered Guantanamo closed.

3) Ordered all military tribunals to STOP.

4) DISMISSED charges against the mastermind of the USS Cole attack, which killed 17 American Sailors.

5) Moved the Census Bureau out of the Commerce Dept and INTO the White House. This is HUGE.

6) Signed an executive order repealing a prior ban on YOU paying for abortions abroad.

7) Negotiating with Russia to reduce our nuclear arsenal. You know, ours...the one that has caused so many accidents and deaths?

8)Allowed Tim Geithner to be confirmed as Treasury Secretary, even though he clearly is a tax cheat.

9) Had several other nominees withdraw their names due to TAX PROBLEMS.

10) Promised to hire no lobbyists, then hired a couple.

11) Hires G.E.'s CEO to his economic advisory board . . . is this even legal? I know it is unethical, but somebody needs to go to prison over THIS--GE stock! Somebody bet me $1000 that GE stock doesn't DOUBLE in the next 12 months. This is candy from a baby. Buy GE stock. They are in bed with Barack!!!

12) Nixed a coal plant that was planned for North Dakota.

13) Apologized---APOLOGIZED---for DEA busts in California. He promised in his campaign to lighten up on illegal grow operations, as he thinks it is a waste of resources. What does he propose? Having these DEA agents build roads? It's hard to tell your kids that illegal drugs are bad when the President APOLOGIZES for busting the people who are responsible for growing/manufacturing them.

14) Helped push through the largest spending bill in US History, even as he criticizes the Bush Administration for "getting us in this mess" by running up a deficit. Makes perfect sense. When you can't pay your bills, you always go out and spend MORE, don't you???

15) Promotes unions and "card check" legislation which will only cost us millions and millions of more jobs.

One more I had to add, Obama has shuned the medal of honor recipients. The annual ball held to honor the medal of honor recipeints was skipped by obama, in war-time, being the first president to miss it since it's inception. hey man, the president doesn't give a crap, so why should I, right?? not me, but apparently the vast majority thinks this way, at least 237M out of 360M people.

THREE WEEKS. It's only been THREE weeks. We have FOUR YEARS of this to come.

Good post Lock5, I love to watch his interviews, speeches, etc. Many of them I just "happen" upon... being the political "cherry" that he is, there are many times he will say things that you know his "press" people are just rolling their eyes. Not saying anything bad, just insightful.

A silly point, but while we're talking about "donations", etc. Prior to superbowl, the press asked for his pick, I just happened to be watching when he twisted in his chair while searching for his answer and said; well, I would really like to see the cardinals win as it has been a long time and they are the underdogs, but the steelers donated generously to the campaign so I will have to go with the steelers

How much are your game tickets???? What good could possibly come out of steeler donations....

Lock5 wrote:OBAMA'S THREE WEEK REPORT CARD


5) Moved the Census Bureau out of the Commerce Dept and INTO the White House. This is HUGE.

This one scare the bejeezus outta me.

Being a little longer in the tooth than many of you, I have seen many govt. "changes" come and go. I can honestly say I have never felt as confused and unsettled as I do now. We are in such uncharted waters and my fear is that NOBODY has any idea what they are doing. This whole mess scares the chit outta me!

I will sleep better knowing I was one of the 123 million who didn't vote for "change". Okay, maybe I won't sleep tonite after reading the things our Prez and Gov. have been up to. YIKES

You all know how much I hate to take sides , but this problee we are in is like nothing most of us have ever seen before, I am not sure what everyone is expecting to happen in a month! This is a REAL serious problem and unfortunately what I hear from everyone is a LOT of criticism but no workable solutions.

Do some of you actually believe that if the vote went the other way everything would have been rosy and we sould be on the mend now?

The reality is that we NEED jobs and we NEED people to spend money so that we can keep our jobs and businesses. ANYTHING that will create jobs or cause people to spend money is a positive step.

I say, if you still have your job and you are makking the same money, spend it like you always do. Spending that money may save a job which in turn may come around and save your job!!!!!!

KYCanuck wrote:
The reality is that we NEED jobs and we NEED people to spend money so that we can keep our jobs and businesses. ANYTHING that will create jobs or cause people to spend money is a positive step.

I couldn't agree more. But why in the hell would the dems take out a 15K tax credit for anyone buying a house, not just first time home owners? In my opinion, this would have boosted the home builders, realtors, mortgage companies, building suppliers, manufacturers, etc. Hence bringing a huge boost to the economy. When we were signing the contract on our house we put a contingency in the contract that said closing would take affect after the 15K credit was signed. Oh well, we'll probably be buying it anyway.

Honestly I don't know a lot about the tax credit so I can't comment on what has or hasn't happened with that. I agree, it's a good incentive for home buyers.

I will go back and say that if people don't have jobs or are in fear every day of loosing their jobs, they are not going to be buying homes! It doesn't matter how much of a Tax credit you get.

KYCanuck wrote:You all know how much I hate to take sides , but this problee we are in is like nothing most of us have ever seen before, I am not sure what everyone is expecting to happen in a month! This is a REAL serious problem and unfortunately what I hear from everyone is a LOT of criticism but no workable solutions.

Do some of you actually believe that if the vote went the other way everything would have been rosy and we sould be on the mend now?

The reality is that we NEED jobs and we NEED people to spend money so that we can keep our jobs and businesses. ANYTHING that will create jobs or cause people to spend money is a positive step.

I say, if you still have your job and you are makking the same money, spend it like you always do. Spending that money may save a job which in turn may come around and save your job!!!!!!

First off, out of control spending is what got us into this mess. If you want to create jobs, give the dam money to the folks that create them, business. We have the highest tax rates on businesses in the world right now, add in a spoiled workforce, now tell me why would you start or expand a business in the USA? Make the climate a tad more friendly for the business community and the economy will fix itself. Do you think GM operates in Mexico and Canada because it's a good PR move? GEEZ,...... Now we have thrown $800 billion of my grandchildrens dollars at a bunch of governemnt temporary work. Sure it will be done by private business, but when the government is dooling out the dollars it is still government work. When the roads are built in 2-3 years what are those guy going to do then? We can't save evryone arse from making a dumb decision, if you bought a house 3 years ago and you financed 105% of it, why is it my problem that you and the bank are now in trouble? The house will get sold somehow, and you will become a renter. What's wrong with that? The economy will be just fine, as soon as the politicians quit screwing with it.

[quote="Lock5
First off, out of control spending is what got us into this mess. If you want to create jobs, give the dam money to the folks that create them, business. We have the highest tax rates on businesses in the world right now, add in a spoiled workforce, now tell me why would you start or expand a business in the USA? Make the climate a tad more friendly for the business community and the economy will fix itself. Do you think GM operates in Mexico and Canada because it's a good PR move? GEEZ,...... Now we have thrown $800 billion of my grandchildrens dollars at a bunch of governemnt temporary work. Sure it will be done by private business, but when the government is dooling out the dollars it is still government work. When the roads are built in 2-3 years what are those guy going to do then? We can't save evryone arse from making a dumb decision, if you bought a house 3 years ago and you financed 105% of it, why is it my problem that you and the bank are now in trouble? The house will get sold somehow, and you will become a renter. What's wrong with that? The economy will be just fine, as soon as the politicians quit screwing with it.[/quote]

Lock, I don't disagree with you and I think we BOTH have good points. I have always been a big supporter of providing tax incentives or breaks whatever you want to call them to busineess to encourage growth and new business, I also belive that this is one of the life lines to our economy. The fact remains that people need to have jobs to be able to buy the product or service that the company is producing. Yes, you are correct that suplimenting business will create jobs but only as long as they can sell products and services. It is a nasty circle.

Right now today, we have people who are not spending money for many reasons but some out of simple fear about thier future. Unless we get people to spend we can't build business and unless we build business we can't get people to spend.

As I said I think we have the same goal in mind I just believe that we have to get people to spend money before we can start to shore up the business and create even more jobs. I don't claim to have all the answers because this thing is bigger than all of us, but we have to start somewhere.

I have determined that I can cut a LOT of little things out of my budget today and save some money, the fact is that if I loose my job now or in 6 months that money I saved won't amount to anything. Yes you can give me a check for $8K or $26K (I have heard different numbers) but in the end without my job that won't amount to anything! I have decided that I will keep all my little indulgences because my salary is the same and my expenses are pretty much the same, in the hopes that I save even one job which comes back to us in a way that allows us to keep our jobs.
I also understand that for a LOT of business owners they can't say the same thing because their income has one down, I just hope that I can help a little.

btw, I was also disapointed that there were not more Business Incentives in the package and that has nothing to do with my politics. I also know that it is not the silver bullet, it's just one piece of the puzzle.

Maybe if they actually read the bill (Obama included) they would not have voted for it. They never had the chance to look of the 1000 pages prior to signing. Now that's a dumbass move right there.

FasterThanYou wrote:Maybe if they actually read the bill (Obama included) they would not have voted for it. They never had the chance to look of the 1000 pages prior to signing. Now that's a dumbass move right there.

If they had read it, we would at least know if they are dumbarses or not. Now they can just say we didn't read into all the details.

I think you are going to see some Govenors not accept this donkey dung. It play out well for them.

Govenors are saying that the stipulations on Medicaid/care can't be sustained after the intial cash runs out.

Also the bill does away with Clintons welfare reform program, how bout that.

(copy KYCanuck)

Right now today, we have people who are not spending money for many reasons but some out of simple fear about thier future.






KYCanuck, I don't know how old you are, but you have over 50% of the American population that is over 50 years old. MANY who has lost so much of their retirement investments that there is not much hope of retiring now. This is scary to us (not the not retiring part) but just keeping our jobs as there are many youngin's out there looking for them. Take the fear of losing your job (age alone can be enough), losing health insurance benefits, the continuous announcements of SS and Medicare being depleted, on and on and on...

We are and independent bunch of white-hairs and we have done our "fair share" of supporting this country (and the wasteful government) that it awakened us to the fact that we just may have to go back to the lifestyle we grew up in for awhile. This is not a bad thing. We are not looking forward to having our kids have to take us in just so we won't have to live on hot dogs and boxed macaroni n powder chez..... some of us will wake up to that reality tho

One thing many americans cannot figure out is the difference between spending and "wasteful" spending.... if you can't pay for it, DON'T BUY IT! Leave the plastic at home... let this country get back to where it was, just happy to be here.

FasterThanYou wrote:Maybe if they actually read the bill (Obama included) they would not have voted for it. They never had the chance to look of the 1000 pages prior to signing. Now that's a dumbass move right there.

Holy crap! The sky is indeed falling 'cause I agree with Faster!

How many of you would just blindly accept something of this magnitude without first reading it? I'm in that "white hair" category (shut up) to which katie refers. I've never and will never agree to something without first knowing what it is! This "cram it in your face and love it or shut up" type of "change" just skeers the chit outta me. Did something need to be done? Yes! Did it need to be done so quickly and incorporate many things that are not "stimulative"? No!

My husband and I are truly blessed to have a comfortable lifestyle. But we worked hard for it and paid our dues and continue to do so. However, we have taken hits financially this year and we have pulled in our horns for a while in terms of spending. We have done upgrades to our new home in Fl but have put off buying a new car or another boat for FL. We have a home here in FL for sale that has been on the market for a year and little traffic through it. Getting banks to loan money again to RESPONSIBLE people would be the best thing for us but that doesn't seem to be in the foremost. We have to bail out all the IRRESPONSIBLE folks first! Can ya tell I'm not a happy camper?

YES Re, the sky has fallen, I agree with you!!!!

Spare Change wrote:YES Re, the sky has fallen, I agree with you!!!!

Oh, chit! This jist goes to show how bad things are!

I think it's because I'm creeping up closer to your ages every day. My wife keeps finding gray hairs on my head, chest and face.

katie wrote:(copy KYCanuck)

Right now today, we have people who are not spending money for many reasons but some out of simple fear about thier future.

KYCanuck, I don't know how old you are, but you have over 50% of the American population that is over 50 years old. MANY who has lost so much of their retirement investments that there is not much hope of retiring now. This is scary to us (not the not retiring part) but just keeping our jobs as there are many youngin's out there looking for them. Take the fear of losing your job (age alone can be enough), losing health insurance benefits, the continuous announcements of SS and Medicare being depleted, on and on and on...

We are and independent bunch of white-hairs and we have done our "fair share" of supporting this country (and the wasteful government) that it awakened us to the fact that we just may have to go back to the lifestyle we grew up in for awhile. This is not a bad thing. We are not looking forward to having our kids have to take us in just so we won't have to live on hot dogs and boxed macaroni n powder chez..... some of us will wake up to that reality tho

One thing many americans cannot figure out is the difference between spending and "wasteful" spending.... if you can't pay for it, DON'T BUY IT! Leave the plastic at home... let this country get back to where it was, just happy to be here.

katie
I am real close to being in that over 50 crowd and I understand about the retirement part and I honestly feel for those that have been put in this situation. I also agree with how we got here, no question.
The unfortunate 'fact' is that the 'white-hairs' and people like us who are still working and making a decent living are in fact going to have to be the ones to bail this country out again. I don't like it any more than anyone else here and our retirement is a lot farther in the future now, but for the time being I just want to get this turned around.

KYCanuck wrote:
The unfortunate 'fact' is that the 'white-hairs' and people like us who are still working and making a decent living are in fact going to have to be the ones to bail this country out again. I don't like it any more than anyone else here and our retirement is a lot farther in the future now, but for the time being I just want to get this turned around.

That may be but I for one do not think that the way to turn it around is by continuing to throw money to IRRESPONSIBLE and GREEDY people at the expense of hardworking people and retirees. In order for this "stimulus" package to have been crammed down our throats so quickly means it was very methodically crafted a long time ago and given the green light by an electorate that had absolutely no idea what was going to happen when the train left the station. This mess did not happen overnight and it will not be fixed overnight. People who think that this whole scenario has not been orchestrated by persons with their own agenda have their heads in a place where the sun don't shine, IMHO! Sheesh! I usually don't get involved in these discussions but.....

New Energy Efficiency Industrial Zones

Cost $17.5 BILLION
Jobs - 1628

Cost per job $10,749,385

Some good info

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

OK, you have officially given me a headache.

JLA wrote:OK, you have officially given me a headache.

Some of the crap they're doing should make you cry too.